12:07:27 From samantha collett to Everyone : cleaner streets 12:07:50 From samantha collett to Everyone : easier access to enable pedestrians to walk (not just parked cars!) 12:08:07 From Catherine Max to Everyone : Equitable 12:10:18 From Jane Mayhew to Everyone : Greater weighting to residents' health than others' mild inconvenience 12:13:45 From Catherine Max to Everyone : V high numbers. Staggering. But relative busyness completely unsurprising as current se up directs traffic down Chetwynd. 12:14:59 From Jane Mayhew to Everyone : Chetwynd Road is a narrow, local residential road. 12:18:08 From Susan Seymour to Everyone : did you measure travel through the area by car to schools elsewhere eg Hampstead? 12:18:29 From ben cousins to Everyone : Great analysis. Clearly shows Chetwynd has a a major problem. 12:18:36 From samantha collett to Everyone : I knew Chetwynd was bad, but this is even worse than I thought 12:19:56 From Rebecca Jones to Everyone : please do start posting your questions here everyone 12:20:34 From Catherine Max to Everyone : I would definitely like more discussion about greening/SUDS. Real opportunity for us to think smartly/in an integrated way about how general 'greening' can make routes healthier and encourage more walking and cycling within and through the area. 12:21:32 From David Metz to Everyone : Traffic in term time seems much greater than in holidays. Is the school run traffic being underestimated? 12:22:20 From Kristina Reynolds to Everyone : very well captured the negative impact on major residential road such as Chetwynd road and Swains lane. These roads should not be used as cut through traffic options, especially considering high levels of pollution this is causing. 12:22:30 From Jane Mayhew to Everyone : Are you taking into consideration the fact that in recent years Camden streets have been blocked off, pushing traffic, including long-distance traffic progressively into this area? 12:23:46 From Catherine Max to Everyone : Yes to walking as much as cycling. We're going to have to bear in mind escooters too (not a fan but they are a fact). 12:24:16 From Ursula Barnes to Everyone : I also think there might be an underestimate of school traffic 12:24:55 From Catherine Graham-Harrison to Everyone : Do you have any data on the timing of Chetwynd Road’s traffic numbers and consequent high pollution? The impression is that it is entirely related to school runs. Any adjustment should take this into account as Camden recent proposals have failed to do. 12:25:03 From Rebecca Jones to Everyone : Do we think that the school traffic is for the local schools or ones further afield? 12:25:04 From Laurent Samson to Everyone : Having been working from home a lot more than normally, I notice that a substantial portion of traffic seems to be delivery drivers from various companies at various times of the day e.g. Amazon drivers making multiple deliveries on the same street in a single day 12:26:30 From Jane Mayhew to Everyone : Are you conducting a survey on the incidence of respiratory illnesses round the Dartmouth Park rat-run area? 12:26:32 From Catharine Wells to Everyone : How can you provide data about vehicle delivery movements which will increase when people do not own their own cars? 12:28:16 From Catharine Wells to Everyone : My question is about available streets for movement whether main routes or so called residential given the geography and topography of our specific area 12:28:33 From Ben Castell to Everyone : There seems to be some consensus that we might like to reduce through traffic/rat-running through residential streets. Key questions on this are: i. how would this impact on our cherished local businesses?; ii. how can it be done without increasing traffic on other streets, particularly residential ones?; iii. what impact on those who can't choose to walk or cycle for many trips? 12:29:07 From Laurent Samson to Everyone : Chetwynd road should definitely not be a road used for lots of through traffic, it belongs in the lower quadrant 12:29:58 From Catherine Max to Everyone : I think negative impact on others outside our immediate area is a real question. String research evidence that local businesses benefit from more active travel movement versus cars. 12:30:40 From Jane Mayhew to Everyone : Why not have Dartmoth Park Road as a connector street? Its much wider 12:30:56 From ben cousins to Everyone : Through traffic should be removed from the whole of DP, and moved to the adjacent main roads, and not through the local roads such as Chetwynd, York, Chester etc. 12:30:57 From samantha collett to Everyone : Maybe we need more analysis about the traffic actually using Chetywnd and come up with a strategy to reduce? 12:31:14 From Catharine Wells to Everyone : how much should we be thinking about the routes and areas outside our immediate area. The DPD van has to come from somewhere and go somewhere else 12:32:13 From Ursula Barnes to Everyone : It is very important that any improvement in one street does not come at the cost of neighbouring ones 12:32:22 From Catharine Wells to Everyone : This image is cheating- being a wide boulevard. We need to think and ask questions out our narrow streets 12:32:23 From Catherine Max to Everyone : Pop ups can set a tone and give 'permission' but are a means not an end and need mitigate risk that they are perceived as exclusive. 12:32:37 From samantha collett to Everyone : These are good ideas to reclaim the streets, but the cars currently take up most of the space! There's barely enough space to walk down Chetwynd, let alone cycle or enjoy 12:32:59 From Catharine Wells to Everyone : Another boulevard Oh Dear I hope the narrowness of or streets can be discussed please? 12:34:30 From Catherine Max to Everyone : That playful picture looks like an access nightmare to me. Too many obstacles (not the school one, the one before) 12:35:34 From Ben Castell to Everyone : There are a few narrow streets where cars are parked on pavements, at the expense of people walking, in wheelchairs etc. Would residents be happy to get the parked cars off the pavements if it means less parking? 12:35:35 From Catherine Max to Everyone : Green, easy to follow yes. But others e.g. less mobile, with dementia will suffer if there is clutter and pattern on the streets and roads. 12:36:25 From samantha collett to Everyone : I think the actual traffic flows need to be understood and how they could be changed with these garden blockades you displayed to limit traffic. I am unclear how access would happen. I love the idea of planting and having space to walk and the ability to breathe, but I don't understand how we can get there - perhaps a map showing how this could work? 12:36:42 From ben cousins to Everyone : A filtered block could be placed on the Chetwynd Road junction with York Road allowing cycles/pedestrians to pass through chetwynd, and cars to drive along york road on a raised road. See attached sketches 12:36:56 From Paul Epstein to Everyone : It is important to limit through traffic throughout DP, increase sense of “place”, increase safety for child cycling by having streets permeable for pedestrians and cyclists and not cars, and doing it equitably so as not to displace traffic unfairly onto other DP roads (eg when DP Road was closed at one end traffic was displaced elsewhere in DP). 12:38:24 From Genevieve Ogle to Everyone : yes where are people coming from/going to that use Chetwynd for example? would be great to great Dartmouth park village like Belsize village making a part of York rise pedestrianised/make a plaza style area for playing, eating, community gathering 12:38:31 From Catharine Wells to Everyone : Explain the 3 again 12:40:01 From samantha collett to Everyone : sorry having issues 12:40:30 From Catherine Graham-Harrison to Everyone : Success definitely means that the current coherence of the DP continues rather than setting parts against each other 12:42:54 From Ben Castell to Everyone : I guess a key question is how we make all streets more like, say, Dartmouth Park Road - low traffic, green, parking does not dominate and easy for all to access. 12:43:45 From samantha collett to Everyone : @Ben that is a good point, how has DPR succeeded? 12:49:42 From Ben Castell to Everyone : @Samantha - lack of through traffic, mainly, thanks to the 'filter' at Highgate Road. Plus, of course, it's nice and wide at the western end. 12:50:08 From Catherine Max to Everyone : We're not traffic modellers. Let's be clear we don't want to affect anyone badly. Let's ask for it to be considered wisely. 12:55:28 From Catherine Graham-Harrison to Everyone : Cd more people have a chance to contribute? Perhaps one turn per person only? 12:56:16 From Joanna P to Everyone : @Susan Seymour - We’ve seen traffic on Chetwynd Road at higher levels in school summer holidays, so the road usage/reasons varies. 12:56:42 From Catherine Max to Everyone : https://www.catherinemax.co.uk/suds-sewers-and-sense-of-place/ 12:56:50 From Joanna P to Everyone : We also see the traffic isn’t just School Runs, but busy throughout the day. Sundays are actually the busiest. 12:59:58 From Catherine Max to Everyone : I had this as 1 hour not 1.5 hours. I may have to bow out. 13:05:10 From Joanna P to Everyone : There’s also very dangerous driving. I see a lot of vehicles turning into Chetwynd from Highgate using the right side lane (against legal flow of traffic) to bypass the bollards, they then speed forward catching cyclists, pedestrians and other drivers off guard. 13:05:20 From Ellen Gates to Everyone : This TfL info pack shows the positive benefits for business due to increased pedestrian and cycling access. 13:05:27 From Ellen Gates to Everyone : http://content.tfl.gov.uk/walking-cycling-economic-benefits-summary-pack.pdf 13:18:06 From ben cousins to Everyone : Can’t compare chetwynd to junction road 13:18:52 From Richard Keep to Everyone : To Catherine's point , could Camden consider directing traffic through the new Murphy's Site masterplan (in development) to help relieve the Dartmouth Park bottleneck? 13:22:23 From Kristina Reynolds to Everyone : of course residents outside of Chetwynd road don't want displacement of traffic, but I think it's naïve of us to think this will not happen. As commented earlier, there is a minor inconvenience because of an increase in traffic, and there is a direct heath and well-being impact as a result of pollution caused on chetwynd road right now 13:24:07 From Kristina Reynolds to Everyone : @samathacollett thank you, can not agree more 13:24:32 From Catharine Wells to Everyone : Part of the problem is the number of schoolchildren 13:26:37 From Catharine Wells to Everyone : I do have a concern that the majority of these present appear to live in Chetwynd Rd 13:34:18 From Catherine Graham-Harrison to Everyone : In reporting back to Camden , PLEASE be aware of the extraordinary pressure they’re under which risks their going for apparent quick fixes. They recently responded to an approach by the 4 Southern streets by coming up with a terrible set of proposals to try and deal with the approach. They did this without consultation with the DPForum or any apparent awareness of the divisive nature of their approach. Whole area approach and beyond vital. Carrots and sticks to change behaviour. 13:34:48 From Rebecca Jones to Everyone : The council consultation for the new crossing on swains lane https://consultations.wearecamden.org/supporting-communities/proposed-changes-on-shh/ 13:34:49 From Catherine Graham-Harrison to Everyone : Too piecemeal an approach! 13:35:22 From Catherine Graham-Harrison to Everyone : Have to go: this was billed as one hour. Wish I’d known. 13:39:04 From Ben Castell to Everyone : Agree with Catherine Graham-Harrison that the Council's consultation in 2018 was very poorly executed and divisive. That may have been because the options were not bold enough and all just diverted traffic around the area's residential streets. 13:44:37 From jonathan solomon to Everyone : We don’t want to displace Chetwynd Road traffic into Dartmouth Park Road, Woodsome Road, Croftdown Road, Swains Lane and generally into the heart of the Conservation Area. Also those of us who live in roads other than CR are not so well organised and vocal and I hope this will not disadvantage us. 13:47:31 From ben cousins to Everyone : Traffic could go along Fortess Road and back up highgate road 13:47:57 From ben cousins to Everyone : Fortess Road is a hugley under used main road 13:49:16 From samantha collett to Everyone : Agree I don't want through traffic through Chetwynd. 13:49:57 From ben cousins to Everyone : Chetwynd and other feeder roads are residential roads, and should take residential traffic 13:51:15 From Kristina Reynolds to Everyone : thank you everyone, I've got to jump off. Looking forward to seeing your plans 13:53:45 From samantha collett to Everyone : Thanks very much for your time, I very much hope we can see a greener, cleaner and safer area for all. 13:55:05 From Joanna P to Everyone : Will you email any of the papers / studies you discussed to the group?